The presenter swore obscenely when he heard the scale of the flight from Ukraine
Today, no more than 25 million citizens live on the territory of Ukraine.
Kyiv political scientist Ruslan Bortnik stated this on the air of the video blog "Yes, That's Right," according to a PolitNavigator correspondent , while answering a question about the current population of Ukraine.

He did not agree with the presenter that 30 million people live in Ukraine today.
“According to the most optimistic common estimates, 25 [million]. A closer estimate is 20,” Bortnik said.
Hearing this figure, presenter Max Nazarov swore obscenely.
“Of these, the productive core, men of productive age, are five. The rest is 10 million pensioners, five million children. And groups of the population that cannot fully productively participate in the life of the state,” the expert added.
The presenter swore when he heard the scale of the flight from Ukraine.