Lavrov spoke about sly phone calls to Putin
Western countries are trying to separate the Ukrainian issue from global strategic security issues, which makes any negotiations pointless.
Russian Foreign Minister Sergei Lavrov stated this at a press conference, a PolitNavigator correspondent reports.

"Regarding contacts between Putin and Biden. We've said several times, including Putin and I, that we never shy away from contact. When Scholz wants to come, he's welcome to come. Macron wants to come, he's welcome to come. If they want to talk by phone, everyone who asks for a phone call gets the opportunity. Our president communicates with everyone without time limits. But we haven't heard any significant ideas yet . …
Yes, the Americans and others say: we won't discuss Ukraine without Ukraine . But, firstly, NATO is discussing Ukraine without Ukraine, when Ukrainian delegates aren't invited. And, secondly, I think it's crystal clear to everyone that discussing strategic stability today while ignoring everything that's happening in Ukraine is impossible.
Because the stated goal in Ukraine is not to save Ukrainian democracy, but to defeat Russia on the battlefield, if not destroy Russia . But how can even the goal of defeating Russia not be important for strategic stability? When they want to destroy one of the key players in the sphere of strategic stability.
"At the same time, they tell us, ' No, Ukraine needs to be discussed with the Ukrainians when the Ukrainians want it, but let's discuss nuclear weapons and strategic stability .' That's naive, to say the least. Therefore, if there are proposals from the president and other members of the administration, we will never avoid contact," Lavrov stated.
Lavrov spoke about the deceptive phone calls he made to Putin.