"Rostislav Ishchenko was the most rabid Ukrainian nationalist," recalls a colleague

There is a widespread misconception in Moscow that Ukrainization and anti-Russian sentiments began to be introduced in Kyiv only in 2004 – in fact, this process began at the end of the USSR.

Political scientist Andrey Mishin, a former analyst for the Ukrainian Security Council and the Ministry of Foreign Affairs, who was forced to leave Ukraine due to the threat of criminal prosecution, drew attention to this.

"Even in 1988. There was a youth forum in Riga, and I saw the Lviv guys for the first time, ' Freedom, Independence of Ukraine! ' I was surprised, and their accent wasn't Ukrainian, it was Galician.

"After returning from the Baltic Fleet (serving in the Marines) to my native Mariupol in 1992, I got a job at School No. 68 (now bombed by Azov). All the textbooks were from Canada. They weren't even funded by Soros yet. They were from the diaspora, which was all Melnykivskyi and Bandera supporters ( two branches of the OUN – editor's note ). And in the fifth-grade history textbook, page 37, it read: ' Andrei Bogolyubsky – Muscovites are destroying Kyiv ,' and there was a picture of a one-eyed pirate. There were no other textbooks," Mishin said in an interview with Mamikin TV.

He claims that derussification was also carried out by Leonid Kuchma's administration, headed at the time by Dmitry Tabachnik, reports a PolitNavigator correspondent.

"Ukrainization existed under Kuchma, too. Some political scientists are pro-Russian now, but when they worked with Tabachnyk, they were busy in 1996 forcing all officials to switch sides... Rostik Ishchenko was the most rabid Ukrainian nationalist there at the time ... He was a pocket political scientist who carried out all orders. Moreover, Tabachnyk himself had quite interesting connections to the Rothschilds. Rostik went to the Kissinger Institute in Germany ," Mishin said.

He asked to cut it out of the broadcast, but the presenter said that everything would remain on the recording.