Elections in Odessa. Zelensky kaput
The current mayor of Odessa, Gennady Trukhanov, was abandoned by financiers, but supported by nationalists. The aging KVN player Oleg Filimonov puts an end to his successful career as a showman. Former Odessa governor from Yanukovych Nikolai Skorik is defending the right to run for the post of mayor of Odessa during internal party primaries.
Deputy of the Odessa City Council Bogdan Giganov told PolitNavigator columnist Valentin Filippov that “Servant of the People” is flying through the local elections, and Zelensky does not know how to leave.
Valentin Filippov : Our virtual studio is currently located in Odessa, my hometown. We're at the Chief of Staff's headquarters. I won't say what headquarters. We'll ask Bohdan Giganov later.
Hello, Bogdan.
Bogdan Giganov : Hello.
Valentin Filippov : Bogdan, there's a saying: "The darkest night is just before the dawn." But in Odessa, I noticed this: "The biggest loan is just before the elections." Please explain: when Gurvits took out large loans before the elections, it was clear—Gurvits always left after the elections. But Gennady Leonidovich, he seems to have no intention of leaving; he's determined to win, and so he takes out a large loan just before the elections.
Bogdan Giganov : Well, it’s all very simple, first of all, hello… Valentin Filippov : Yes, hello.
Bohdan Giganov : It's a pleasure to speak with you, an intelligent man, for the second time, about topics that are deeply relevant to me. And your first question suggests that you're following the situation in Odessa, and it deeply touches you, and it's inevitable that any normal person won't be affected. Because we understand that this is our city, and it's racking up ever-increasing debt, and we, as sober people, understand that sooner or later we'll have to pay it back.
Naturally, the most correct, most important question arises: “Why, excuse me, do we have so much, and at whose expense are we going to compensate for it, return it?” Well, here’s an eerily banal answer, you just can’t imagine how banal it is: there is no hidden secret plan to restore the housing stock, there is no hidden plan to make, improve, plant some lawns, no, we just have elections. There are elections in Odessa and that says it all.
Many serious entrepreneurs who previously invested in the program, so to speak, of Trukhanov’s team, today they are simply forced to refuse his services. Because during his reign, during his tenure, to put it mildly, he acted as an unscrupulous partner in relation to these people. He did not always keep his word, and, as practice shows, he continues to do so. Of course, no one in such a situation will finance the mayor’s election campaign, which, as it turns out, is not exactly cheap.
So this is not the last loan that we took out at the previous session. We currently have 3,5 billion hryvnia in debt, and at the last session we additionally considered obtaining another 500 million, for a total of 500 million hryvnia. How can I tell you, it’s probably good to spend budget money on yourself, these loan funds. But the fact is that we understand that the only significant means of filling the budget purse of the city of Odessa is the personal income tax tax, that is...
Valentin Filippov : Well, that is, the income tax goes to the city budget.
Bogdan Giganov : This city budget should have been effectively spent on the development budget starting in January. As a taxpayer, I should see a few potholes filled, a few trees planted, and so on. I want the city to develop. And this is precisely where I am a responsible taxpayer. Well, I'm not just talking about myself; I hold myself up as an example.
But imagine that my taxes go to repay the loan? Will I see any development near me in the near future? No, I won't see it. Accordingly, the city will be in decline. And today’s money that we took and spent on the election campaign...
Not everyone will see them, because we understand that, firstly, the election campaign is spending only on that part of the population that is a cluster, that is, the Suvorovsky district, the Kievsky district, the Malinovsky part there, where there are high-rise buildings, there where it’s easier to spend a spoonful of asphalt and descend 9-10-20 floors to meet voters.
Nobody spends this money on the old destroyed foundation of the Primorsky district, no one spends it on Moldavanka. Our historical cultural past is simply being destroyed, and no one cares. There is no development strategy not only for a year, there are 5-10, there is no understanding at all of what will happen tomorrow. Today we take out loans, we spend them on ourselves, those we love, we have to be re-elected, we have stolen, but at the same time we even regret spending this money on you, who were stolen.
Valentin Filippov : No, no, no, don't confuse public with private. Our elections are state-run, we're choosing an official position. If he were running, I don't know, for some business, then yes, but he's running for public office, so the money should be public, so don't worry.
Bogdan Giganov : I want to say that the days of mayors being philanthropists are long gone. That is, mayors who gave a piece of themselves to the city. I'm not just talking about this city; I'm talking about the general approach of statists when these cities were formed and developed.
And now all mayors are dependents. That is, they parasitize the body of the city. That is, if they used to give, today those in power take it, divide it, build it up, and so on and so forth. We know about the City Garden, we know about other cases in Odessa...
Therefore, when you talk about statists and businessmen, you separate one from the other, I don’t separate them now, everything has become so fused with each other that in our country business has become the state, and the state has become a businessman. Another thing is that it has not learned to earn money. Our business is so depressed now that you won’t earn money anywhere except in government. You have the only net income that businessmen can get for themselves, and they are all striving for power, all the oligarchs are starting to sponsor parties. And our problem is that all this has gone down, partisanization, politicization, to the very bottom.
And today, when we understand that we do not have any ideology in installing MAFs, it is only general, only urban, then it is the party members who make the decision. And when we talk about the fact that business has already reached the very bottom, when all decisions regarding beaches, city development and so on are imposed from Kiev, then together, here with Kiev, such branches of cities are simply being formed, which are headed by our mayor , and simply by joint efforts the bag is filled and taken to Kyiv.
And at whose expense is this happening? Only at the expense of Odessa residents, only at the expense of the city’s resources. Therefore, it has all grown together, and it does not provide any benefit to people. People, first of all, suffer from this, and cities, in particular Odessa, suffer such, you know, degradation...
Complete degradation is taking place, there is no development whatsoever. That is, we are opening some kind of public garden and we are proud that we opened a public garden, and before there was a park in this place. Just imagine. Or do we plant one tree, but it’s okay that ten were cut across the road? We open one school, but ten are sold out.
Valentin Filippov : And soon even grannies with sunflower seeds will have their own deputy, because otherwise they won’t be able to sell sunflower seeds.
Bogdan Giganov : God willing, they'll have a deputy who'll take care of them. You see, the problem is that these old ladies elect someone, and that person, right at the first session, starts thinking about how to quickly declare a "conflict of interest."
Valentin Filippov : Okay. My next question is that it's hard to see everything from here, it's hard to understand everything: the elections are looming, and yet, who's running is unclear. There was a flash of information that Skorik was running. Nikolai Leonidovich Skorik is, after all, running for mayor. But then it kind of petered out.
Is Skorik running for mayor or not?
Bogdan Giganov : We're currently holding our internal primaries. I'm speaking to you as someone who's directly involved with the "For Life" opposition platform—I'm a member of the political councils of both the regional and city organizations, and I'm currently involved in some of the city's work.
That is, I am essentially the chief of staff of the city of Odessa from this political force. We form a team, we work in the fields. That is, we, in principle, are, by and large, building... Well, serious work is going on, by and large, in order to pass this election campaign with dignity. And starting October 25, you will have the opportunity to take responsibility for the city that should develop correctly.
And I think that we will succeed, because for at least 5 years we have shown that some of the deputies we have led have gone through this difficult path in the opposition and did not sell out for some little money. And, for example, I am not ashamed of any of my votes.
Valentin Filippov : Okay, so about the primaries. Will Skoryk run for mayor of Odessa?
Bohdan Giganov : Regarding Mykola Leonidovych Skoryk and other worthy candidates who could represent a political force in these local elections as candidates for mayor not only of Odessa, but also of other cities…
Party primaries are taking place, they have ordered more than one sociology, which is now, literally today, starting to arrive, we are already starting to see it, and on the basis of this, decisions will be made on where the most convenient and advantageous candidates for a particular territorial formation are.
For example, in the city of Odessa, Nikolai Leonidovich, God willing, will approve the primaries, I see that today we received the results of the survey. He has a good rating, of course, it remains for the party to confirm some of its intentions.
There, the strategic council makes decisions first: we are waiting for two more narrative parts from two sociological campaigns, if this whole matter is confirmed, then of course Nikolai Leonidovich will be nominated as a candidate for mayor. Because we understand that this is the most acceptable candidate.
If another candidacy is confirmed there, then it will be a different candidacy. The whole point is that the decision is not imposed - neither by Kiev, nor by some financial group. I have a sociological survey on my phone that is not published anywhere, this is true, this is the honest truth.
Valentin Filippov : Can you give me a rough idea? You say, "There's sociology," what's Skorik's position there? What's his position? What percentage, how do you compare it?
Bogdan Giganov : That would be incorrect. Firstly, whether I say "a lot" or "a little" is, in any case, unsubstantiated. I'm simply telling you honestly. I'm a straightforward, open person, and I'm telling it like it is: at this point, there are no behind-the-scenes agreements going on, except to objectively verify that people are ready to support this particular person.
Valentin Filippov : Okay, so explain this to me: some analysts from Odessa are saying that the Opposition Platform — For Life party has supposedly already reached an agreement with Trukhanov and "everyone else," Rabinovich, and so on, and they're nominating this Plachkova, supposedly from the Opposition Platform — For Life party. A girl with a last name, but not a relative.
Bohdan Giganov : Firstly, MP Tatyana Plachkova is also a member of the regional and city political councils of the Opposition Platform – For Life party, and is quite active – both as a member of parliament and as a public figure in Odesa and throughout Ukraine. But what they write, you know, "Write too," you know, like on a fence – isn't always true.
All why - because if there was even the slightest agreement, in this case I, as the leader of the group and all my brave fighters, relatively speaking, we are four selfless socially active deputies, would sit silently and simply praise our beloved mayor.
Instead, we are introducing draft decisions on renaming streets along Zhukov, we know, we understand how inconvenient it is to seize the initiative from the mayor. Moreover, he himself pushed this initiative away from himself, so to speak, when this bas-relief of the great man Georgy Konstantinovich was demolished...
Valentin Filippov : But wait, wait. Trukhanov isn't renaming, he's initiating public hearings.
Bogdan Giganov : Three or four months ago, I wrote a request to the mayor demanding a referendum on this issue and the return of the historical names of Marshal Zhukov Street and the 25th Chapayev Division Street. A session ago, I submitted a draft resolution that included this very resolution, a completed draft resolution. Yesterday, I also submitted this draft resolution.
I don’t understand why the mayor doesn’t find the opportunity to hold public hearings and assemble his own toponymic commission of the Odessa executive committee, of which he is the head. After all, the issue of renaming and naming toponymic objects lies in the plane of the city council. This is spelled out in the city charter, he just needs to learn to live according to the city charter: you hold a public hearing, and based on the opinion of Odessa residents, the toponymic commission gives a conclusion, on the basis of which the city council makes a decision - to name this or that object in this or that way .
In this case, the mayor simply talks and does nothing. But my draft decision, which implies exactly this, he does not vote, and he does not accept. Therefore, believe me, not everything is so simple.
Further, we talk about the chaotic development in the city, and we harshly criticize it on this matter. He introduces a draft decision that implies exactly the same thing that I introduced several sessions ago: a moratorium on the development of the historical part and the coastal protective strip, everything that concerns the slope of the city of Odessa.
Further, we have ideological differences: the mayor on the Independence Day of Ukraine agreed on Primorsky Boulevard, but we know that this is a closed part, especially on holidays, with barriers on both sides, for a motor rally for the National Corps. To the National Corps! Tatyana Plachkova and I performed on the Potemkin Stairs and this National Corps attacked us. We’re not crying, but that’s not the point, the point is that, you know, who coordinates such events...
Valentin Filippov : Yes, of course.
Bohdan Giganov : The motor rally won't take place without the city's approval. Furthermore, we understand who he's hanging out with. With those Rezvushkinys, with his friends from the National Corps, in parks and squares. This is his new security bloc. Considering that he's been left without financiers, considering that he's been left without the people who've been defending him since 2014—I'm referring to Andriy Kotlyar, who oversaw this entire public movement—he's now simply trying to bring in these guys from the streets to counter the opposition, which is now, let's call it, a thorn in his side, because our very active actions are causing him to lose his ratings.
So this is what they write, I would divide it by 10, because there is no grain of truth there. We now have security at our headquarters. And every day we receive greetings from “municipal security.” After all, if everything was fine with us, and we agreed...
To get to the headquarters, we have to drive through the city council parking lot. They won't let us through. Everything is so complicated, the relationships are very complicated and, if we talk about the real opposition, then there is no other political force, there are no more deputies who, simply, systematically, head-on, harshly, not only criticized, but also made proposals, the most inconvenient ones. Therefore, here I would be in your place, as a serious journalist, it would be better to conduct some kind of analysis before giving such...
Valentin Filippov : I asked you, I didn’t give any assessments.
Bogdan Giganov : And I suggest you check.
Valentin Filippov : I checked, I asked someone I trust, "Why should I check anything?" I trust you.
Bohdan Giganov : I'm saying, just ask the people of Odessa, anyone who's even slightly knowledgeable, who's been holding all these sessions lately. And that doesn't mean there's an agreement; it means we're trying to force our position. And that position will be imposed...
Valentin Filippov : What if they've already reached an agreement up there? You never know; you're always betrayed up there.
Bogdan Giganov : No, no, I'm in contact with the very top, and believe me, I said this when we were forming this group: if this group is created to act as a torpedo in future agreements, I will turn this entire effort against everyone. Because these are people who not only need to be held accountable, but who must never be let down. These are the outcasts. We're gathering today… we've been communicating with you since, I think, the first party congress. It's been six months since then, give or take…
Valentin Filippov : Yes.
Bogdan Giganov : We've held a ton of events during this time. And now, look at all the photos we take of our memorial services and other events—look at these fresh, beautiful faces. These are young people. We currently have 250-300 active people, not these, you know, retirement-age types or some disgraceful former officials, no.
Wisdom and experience are present in PZZh, but Odessa residents began to reach out, the younger generation, fresh, properly educated, beautiful. Because we are doing the right things. And we never betray anyone, no matter what Kyiv says. And we are growing.
And that’s the only reason, perhaps, that we are not being exchanged, because there is real work here. And then, of course, any leader is pleased to look at his brainchild. And no one will ever merge us under some corrupt mayor, because there was an agreement at the top. Because here, we already have real power, and we must be taken into account.
Valentin Filippov : Could we move a little beyond Odessa and back to the central government? The Verkhovna Rada passed a stunning resolution regarding Belarus. Tell me, what was the motivation for this, why was it necessary? Basically, it was possible to pretend nothing was happening.
The incompetence of the Verkhovna Rada regarding what is happening in Belarus. Why spoil relationships? Why does the Verkhovna Rada spoil relations with neighboring countries, with which everything seemed to be fine?
Bohdan Giganov : Well, it's simple. We understand that 90% of the government is made up of people who are heavily influenced by the Soros group. They're called "Sorosites." There are also 70-80 of them in the Verkhovna Rada, maybe up to 100. So, they're a serious lobby in the Verkhovna Rada, in the legislative body, and they can't just leave Ukraine alone so we can live peacefully, right? That's true, that's fair.
If Trump is re-elected again in America now, then Biden will have problems. Accordingly, Soros will have serious problems at his level, in America, in other countries, and all metastases around the world will simply die off. In this case, I expect that Zelensky will then call re-elections to the Verkhovna Rada in the spring, and then we will elect the correct composition of the Verkhovna Rada Council, where people will, in any case, be engaged only by their territories, their internal convictions and their idea – let it be right or left, but at least it will be a pro-Ukrainian idea, not a pro-Western one.
Therefore, it is very simple here, this is the lobby that Soros has, we understand that he is the one who loves to make revolutions, in Belarus he is directly related to this revolution. I think, as I understand it, this is precisely what caused this deterioration of the situation within the country, because we are on the border, we are the territory that always personifies... here are three pillars... we understand, here is Russia, Ukraine and Belarus. Ukraine was torn away, and the neighbor must show that life is better here, and we are trying in every possible way to bounce around in this Verkhovna Rada.
Thank God, not all deputies have the brains to support this, well, wild movement, I’ll call it that. Because we ourselves have jumped to the point that we don’t have a single drop of development, we don’t know how to maintain this situation, simply in the present. And we are trying to impose the same ideology and behavior on Belarus. That is, this is complete nonsense.
This is my opinion. If, God willing, everything happens right, then in the spring, I suspect, we will have new re-elections to the Supreme Council. And if the information that I received literally a few hours ago is confirmed, that in the local elections, in all local elections, the “servants of the people” will fly by, this will simply show the president that he has absolutely no support.
That is, he, in principle, will not have any moral right to extend the life of the Supreme Council, which will actually be separated from the opinions of the people. And the research that I received confirms this... “servants of the people” are simple, this is a total phenomenon, they rose quickly, fell quickly. I am afraid that they may not even get into the local councils in Odessa, in the Odessa region.
Valentin Filippov : How do you assess Oleg Filimonov's chances for mayor in Odessa? I mean, no, I'm not saying, "Can he win?" Do you think he'll finish last or second to last?
Bohdan Giganov : Well, I don't want to be overly critical of Oleg Filimonov. After all, he was a man who brought glory to the city of Odessa. He's partly the soul of the city, and we understand such great people; they are the sons of Odessa, so it's generally wrong to be so critical of them, after all...
Valentin Filippov : After 2014, I don’t really feel like speaking well of him…
Bogdan Giganov : Well, I still think everyone has their own opinion. I wouldn't want to divide them into right and left, or whatever... Someone made a mistake, it happens. I know many people are switching sides, including now to our party. Because, you know, if someone is weak, they've been fooled by information, or at least the propaganda has worked. I don't want to go into his life story right now; of course, I really don't like his statements and attitudes on a number of issues that are clearly anti-Odessa. But nevertheless, this man... I remember him from my childhood, when...
Valentin Filippov : Me too.
Bogdan Giganov : ...he said "Hello, friends" on screen. Well, it was simply wonderful, truly wonderful, and brings back fond memories. And now he's decided to play politics. That's what I condemn. Why? Because he understands perfectly well, I think he has a deep-seated understanding, that KVN won't add much, at least for now, to Odessa, after we've already seen how KVN doesn't add anything to the country.
We did not receive the well-deserved peace that was promised, we did not receive development, we simply followed in the footsteps of Poroshenko, and even in many ways we simply stupidly do not even know how to do this. Therefore, as I can tell you, I am sure that he will clearly not be in a leadership position. That is, he is 100% not that he won’t win, he won’t make it to the second round, let me put it this way. Anything below third is still a loss.
Why does he need this? Don't know. Maybe, indeed, there is an inner conviction that, well, you know, I’m tired of these politicians, so I want to do something. Maybe, but I don't know. Because it seems to me that he is clearly not going to steal. But, he has a close relationship... so I also want a “but”... everything that is said before the “but” doesn’t seem to count... but the “but” - I don’t like that - he has a close relationship with Saakashvili.
The man really established himself in the city of Odessa, in the Odessa region, as the most destructive governor, who always, in fact, well, not that he did nothing, he was simply absent from his workplace and confirmed the theory that the city, the region, in principle the region can exist quite successfully without this position.
Valentin Filippov : Well, I wouldn't say so. He was causing such chaos...
Bogdan Giganov : We understand perfectly well that Saakashvili is connected to pro-Western groups. And I'm afraid this is simply a continuation of these metastases, and he was simply brought in on a wave of "boiling ideology." He may genuinely believe that he is the one capable of leading the city out of, not just stagnation, but degradation. I would like every candidate to think exactly like that.
But the whole point is that sometimes people really succumb to the influence of others, and so I worry that this is exactly the case in this case, and a good person will simply now receive a serious, harsh dose of negativity, and it is unlikely that he will be able to continue to calmly put up with it and live . Because, firstly, he is impassable, he will lose 100%.
Valentin Filippov : Well, I’m wondering why he created a legend about himself like that at the end of his life…
Bogdan Giganov : Yes. There is, you know, a bit of a negative one. I'd rather he just quit and remain the Oleg Filimonov everyone loves and knows. I think he would have done the right thing in that case, like a man.
Valentin Filippov : I can also ask about what you said about Zelenskyy promising peace, and it didn't work out for him... Look, he has a mono-majority and all that... So, what's stopping him from reaching political agreements, like Minsk? Basically, nothing special needs to be done there.
Bogdan Giganov : I'd say he lacks a backbone. He's proven too soft-willed; he's afraid to take responsibility for the steps he's taken. The presidency, like mayor, like any other position, is a responsibility. In life, you need to be able to take risks and be responsible for losses, and at the same time, actually, rejoice in victories. But he's afraid to make a decision because it would run counter to the other side, the minority, and he's starting to play along.
That’s it, most people don’t like it anymore, he’s losing his rating. He starts out just, you know, like this wolf is electronic, remember the game where the wolf tries to catch the eggs and, one way or another, it always breaks at some level. I have not yet seen a person who reached the end of this game.
Here, in this case, he is trying to please everyone. It will not work. It won’t work, because you lose the support of those for whom you have not become one of their own, and for whom you have become a stranger. And it seems to me that there is no other meaning there. He just thinks he's doing something right when he's doing nothing at all. But in this case, he simply freezes the conflict.
Valentin Filippov : But you see, there are other ways to freeze the conflict. Everyone keeps saying, "Whether you want Transnistria or not," but Moldova and Transnistria live quite peacefully. Citizens of Transnistria are citizens of Moldova and vice versa, they travel freely between each other, and relations between the Chisinau and Tiraspol leadership are completely normal. Well, relatively normal. That is, they don't have any particular animosity, and they are essentially one state.
Well, in general... the residents themselves, the locals, they don’t feel that there is any kind of conflict, and...
Bogdan Giganov : Valentin.
Valentin Filippov : Yes, he's frozen. Yes, but in principle, it's better this way than people dying. There haven't been any deaths in Transnistria for 25 years.
Bohdan Giganov : When you lead a state, you must understand, I repeat, that you bear the greatest responsibility, not just for yourself or perhaps for your own conscience. No. You are responsible for every citizen who has left the country, who has died, who has died not only in Donbas, who has died in the hospital because everything is in ruins, because we are unable to even restore order in this sector, because someone is not even receiving a quality education, because you are killing them at their most basic level—I mean, at their most fundamental level.
So he is afraid to do it. He is afraid to make a decision to allow the Russian language in schools because it causes a wave of indignation from right-wing radicals. He is afraid to make a decision regarding Donbass, he is afraid to make a decision regarding medical reform. He is afraid, he does not know anything, he does not understand this. He, in the post-Soviet space, works with people, by the way, being this part himself, who are clearly not pro-Western, he is trying to please the West, because he has no other advisers. After all, if he has Russian advisers or Belarusians, who also live much better than us, this will again cause a wave of indignation from the West, Transparency International, the Soros group, people’s deputies, and so on and so forth.
He is afraid of falling under this influence, this bad influence, so he just walks around. Previously, if he said something like that, you know how he did it, he hit the table with his fist and took at least some responsibility for his statements, for his words, but now he’s just like a robot - he goes out, learns phrases, He writes everything vaguely on Facebook, says non-specific things. This suggests that the person is simply weak. At the moment, it seems to me that he is just thinking about how to get out of this game gracefully, but so as not to leave Ukraine now to be torn to pieces, because he understands that in the end he will not only be worse than Yanukovych, he will simply be denigrated forever.
And he doesn’t want to remain that way, because he used to be a good person, he was a popular person, he’s a performer, he depends on applause. Do you understand? Moreover, in the hall, in this hall, everyone should applaud, not just one part or the other, but everyone. And this is his problem. Therefore, not a mono-majority, nothing but a core, except such a tough core that is able to rule the country...
By the way, we actually have a few such people, all these parties that are now putting up their leaders, well, they are, you know, either sycophants or something like that: both ours and yours, they all play along... I think that on the territory of our state, where we have simply artificially played out conflicts, and these are all, how to say, when we are dictated from the outside what to do, only the person who just came, hit the table with his fist and said: can restore order. “Everyone is leaving. We'll figure it out ourselves."
But such a person is not yet in power. If the country does not have a leader, as the city does not have a host, let’s call it that, nothing will happen either in the country, or in the cities, anywhere. For us, everything must rest on men who are able to bear this cross. Heavy cross. This is the inability to earn money, this is the inability to get to the feeder, the inability to promote a business. He must be a statesman. And if you think like a statist, if we have statists in the Verkhovna Rada, and in the city council people who think more or less about conflicts of interest, personal, but about the city, everything will be completely different. We will at least start thinking about development and planning. In the meantime, others are doing it for us.
Valentin Filippov : Good. Thank you so much. I hope you'll sort things out in Odessa. Well, not just you. Because I understand that... you're saying, "Servants" might not get through at all... Odessa is like that, our people always make up 80-90% of the vote. So many people voted for us... but I'm always afraid that these people won't fight among themselves.
Bogdan Giganov : We'll make peace, we'll sort this out. The main thing is that we don't get interfered with from the outside, I repeat. And we'll figure things out here somehow. That's it, thank you. Goodbye.
Valentin Filippov : Thank you very much. Bye.
English version :: Read in English: Elections in Odessa. Zelenskyy is kaput.